CUSTOMERS.COM® RESEARCH FROM THE PATRICIA SEYBOLD GROUP
Building a Customer-Centric Company… Lessons Learned
Advice to Customer Experience
Executives from Aisling Hassell
By Aisling Hassell, Principal, CX Matters, January 21, 2010
NETTING IT OUT
Why Is a Customer-Centric Business Important to Customers?
Customers can tell the difference between a customer-centric business and one
whose culture is aligned around products or sales.
A customer-centric organization is easy to do business with. Even when things
don’t go well, your first point of contact is empowered to do what
it takes to make things right. When you interact with a customer-centric
organization, you quickly realize that everyone is aligned to help you
meet your goals, and the organization’s business processes and systems
don’t get in your way.
Why Is a Customer Experience Executive Important to Your Company?
In order to build and nurture a customer-centric culture, you need a Customer
Experience executive—someone who can devote full time to understand
customers’ real needs and align everyone in the company to excel
in streamlining customers’ experiences. To be successful, your customer
experience executive needs a high-level executive sponsor, a trusted source
of customer experience metrics, and an important operational role in the
company.
What Does It Take to Do This Job?
Successful customer experience executives are well-respected by top executives,
by their peers, and admired by employees. They are both visionary and operationally
excellent. They can rally the troops and deliver results quarter after
quarter. They measure their success by their customers’ success and
their customers’ loyalty.

Aisling Hassell, ex-VP of Customer Experience and Online, Symantec;
Currently: Principal, CX Matters
INTRODUCTION BY PATRICIA SEYBOLD
I had the good fortune to work with Aisling Hassell for over two years on a
project that turned out to be a pivotal one for her company, Symantec.
In 2004, Aisling had recently been appointed to be Director of Online Strategy
for Symantec, charged with revitalizing the company’s primary Web
site and developing an e-business strategy for the firm. I resonated with
the approach that Aisling had taken in structuring her initiative. In addition
to her direct reports of e-business designers and product managers, she
had recruited a core team of cross-functional stakeholders to help drive
the evolution of the online strategy, as well as a high-level executive
sponsor and executive team.
As we worked together to flesh out the online strategy and create a roadmap
for implementation, we used Customer Scenario® Mapping to engage with
customers and partners and to understand their context, their important
activities, and their critical success metrics. This approach helped Symantec’s
cross-functional stakeholder team build a shared mental model of what the
ideal online experience would be. This approach also surfaced many customer-impacting
issues that weren’t limited to improving the Web experience. That
led Symantec to expand the scope of the project to address cross-channel
and cross-lifecycle customer experience.
Throughout our work together, I admired Aisling’s vision, unrelenting
passion for customers, as well as her attention to detail. She had an amazing
ability to get quick cooperation and turn-around from people throughout the
company and to sell the top executives on her programs and budgets. Aisling
continued to lead Symantec’s online strategy but soon also took on the
mantle of VP of Customer Experience. To succeed in that larger remit, she became
an expert in the use of Customer Experience surveys and the use of the Net
Promoter® score (NPS) to focus the entire organization on improving the
customer experience in the areas that mattered most to customers.
During Aisling’s tenure, Symantec saw double-digit increases in its NPS
across both consumers and partners. In addition, the Web site was relaunched
in 47 countries on an entirely new platform and with the first common brand
and user experience. In 2009, Symantec launched its new community, Symantec
Connect, which is receiving wide acclaim.
Aisling left Symantec in late 2009, after a series of successful customer experience
initiatives. I asked her to offer some of her “lessons learned” for
others of you who are embarking on similar journeys.
ADVICE FROM A FORMER VP OF CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE
Our Customer Experience Strategy Evolved from Our Online Strategy
My customer experience journey started out from a mission to reconcile our
external Web presence. Back in early 2004, our customer-facing Web site
was a better representation of our internal organizational structure than
it was a meaningful and helpful destination for our customers and partners
to accomplish key tasks.
Working with Patty Seybold and her team, we created an online strategy and
a three-year implementation road map. We worked closely with both consumer
and business customers and partners to co-design their ideal online experiences.
We used Patricia Seybold Group’s Customer Scenario® Mapping to
co-design customers’ most critical scenarios and to identify their
moments of truth and metrics.
The insights gleaned from working with customers led us to expand our goal
to encompass a broader customer experience mission to reconcile all touch
points and really drive an outside-in philosophy across the company.
Learning the CX Job
When I became the VP of Customer Experience, I talked to many people across
many industries in my quest for the right approach, and what I discovered
is that there is no magic bullet or unique formula for this work. You have
to roll with what you have in terms of alignment, organizational readiness,
skills, maturity, and desire.
What you can do is try as best as possible to set yourself up for success by
getting the right leadership support, hiring top talent, and driving customer
experience relentlessly.
Go with
the Flow. Even with good executive support and commitment, you will
find you take some turns that lead to dead ends. That is okay. Admit defeat
and move onto the next tactic that might yield results. We spent a lot
of time, for example, on a very nice dashboard for monitoring key customer
experience operational metrics during a very large acquisition. Everyone
thought it was a fabulous idea, but when it came to filling in the numbers,
nobody had the bandwidth or appetite to do the heavy lifting, so it quickly
became shelfware. We could have tried to continue to push the rock up the
hill, but I chose to cut bait and move on to more focused efforts that
would drive change more quickly.
The Importance of Trustworthy Customer Experience Measurement
I believe that no program to change a company can be successful unless the
entire senior management agrees on what is important to customers and aligns
around one source of measurement of customer insights. Many companies have
vast amounts of customer research, but that research is typically driven
by small pockets of enthusiasts, or by marketing, and has little or no
operational clout.
Before embarking on any customer experience improvement journey, you need to
align all the sources of customer insight and make them highly visible
and highly actionable. I was somewhat fortunate in that there was not a
strong base of customer research, just isolated pockets of surveys across
the company. That meant we could leverage the best of what was there and
build on that across all the key areas of the business.
Having a metric like the Net Promoter® Score (NPS) can be a big help in
this evangelization process. The executives don’t need to know the complexity
behind the whole survey architecture, but they do need to know how you measure
success. That is where the simple definition of Net Promoter helps…it
is intuitive to think of a number that takes all the people that love you,
subtracts all the people who hate you, and get a good picture of how well you
are doing. It also helps that NPS is used across multiple industries and has
some weighty analytical research behind it. If you can galvanize the company
around improving customer loyalty and showing them a clear number that will
show progress, you are well on your way. That said, this is not a trivial process.
In the beginning, you can expect a lot of pushback; and it usually takes the
form of challenges to the data…such as its statistical validity, sampling
robustness, and respondents. This will most definitely happen if the results
are not good…which they probably won’t be if the company has just
convinced itself to do something about customer loyalty. You need to be super
confident in your survey process and stick to your guns. Just understand that
as long as you have a robust mechanism for gathering customer insights, this
is just noise and all part of the change process….denial, anger, negotiation,
depression, and, finally, the magic acceptance.
A Seat at the Big Table Is By Far the Best
Ideally, driving this cultural change across the company should be done by
someone sitting at the CEO’s or COO’s table. I had this in
stages in my journey, and it made a massive difference to the support I
received and the progress I made. Not that it is impossible in other functions…often
Customer Experience reports to SVPs of Sales, Marketing, or Support.
What is impossible is if you are in a function that is not a strong driver
of the company agenda. So, if you are in Sales, and Product drives the
company, you will have a lot of challenges in your quest to change the
focus of the company to customers.
What I found is that you need a high-level sponsor who is willing to corral
all the executive team, challenge them, and pound the message out from
the podium in company-wide calls, town halls, or all-hands emails. As long
as you have that, you have a good chance of success. If you don’t,
I would look for some other challenge until that magical sponsor appears.
Have an Operational Remit
In my case, as the customer experience work was spawned out of the desire to “fix
the Web,” my role included the strategy and day-to-day management of
the company’s external online presence. While some could view this as
a distraction, I think it supported my mission.
If you have a staff role that is just focused on getting other people to do
their jobs better, people can be quick to class you as a teacher, not a
doer. Having an operational role (and, of course, being successful at it!)
gives you credibility and also lets you walk the talk in terms of building
a better customer experience in your own area.
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